From the moment that Noah commanded the men to leave their wives and children he could never come back as as leader among this who refused. That one command cost him any vestige of authority with them.
It is interesting how, guess by mortal logic and caprice the Lamanites could embrace and elevate the men who kidnapped their daughters after trying to slaughter the innocent people who they first blamed for the crime. They later took out their anger on the innocents they had tried to slaughter even after they knew that they were innocent.
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